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Enkai: /* Breeding */

2023-04-04T17:22:20Z

Breeding

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	** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)		** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)
	**''Population Band'': From constant.dat file we have the following values which represents the breeding rate affected by the current population size:		**''Population Band'': From constant.dat file we have the following values which represents the breeding rate affected by the current population size:
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30 ~~(population band value = 2.747)~~		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35 ~~(population band value= 3.219)~~		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40 ~~(population band value = 3.662)~~		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40
	***etc...		***etc...
	****Population band value is not in the game files. It was figured out using a known breeding duration where population band were the only unknown factor. it seems to work during testing in formula below.

	*Breeding Duration Formula - Works well for lower population levels up to 60_64% bracket. Higher population bands must be tested...
	~~'''''*Breeding Duration = (base_sprog_time / 12) / (0.5 + population_band value braves_in_hut)'''''~~
	**12 timeframes in game equals 1 seconds.

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

Enkai: /* Breeding */

2023-04-04T15:52:52Z

Breeding

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	** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)		** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)
	**''Population Band'': From constant.dat file we have the following values which represents the breeding rate affected by the current population size:		**''Population Band'': From constant.dat file we have the following values which represents the breeding rate affected by the current population size:
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30 (population band value = 2.747)
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35 (population band value= 3.219)
	***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40 (population band value = 3.662)
	***etc...		***etc...
			****Population band value is not in the game files. It was figured out using a known breeding duration where population band were the only unknown factor. it seems to work during testing in formula below.

	*Breeding Duration Formula - Works well for lower population levels. ~~Further testing required~~.		*Breeding Duration Formula - Works well for lower population levels up to 60_64% bracket. Higher population bands must be tested...
	'''''*Breeding Duration = ~~Base_Sprog_Time~~ / 12 / ((1 + ~~Hut_Multiplier x (Braves_in_Hut- 1))~~ ~~(1 + Population_Band / 100)~~)'''''		'''''*Breeding Duration = (base_sprog_time / 12) / (0.5 + population_band value braves_in_hut)'''''
			**12 timeframes in game equals 1 seconds.

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

Enkai: /* Breeding */

2023-04-04T14:26:54Z

Breeding

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	** It seems (still to confirm) the rate is proportional to the number plus one, e.g. a hut with 3 occupants creates new braves twice as fast as a hut with 1 occupant and four times as fast as a hut with no occupants.		** It seems (still to confirm) the rate is proportional to the number plus one, e.g. a hut with 3 occupants creates new braves twice as fast as a hut with 1 occupant and four times as fast as a hut with no occupants.
	** Note that empty huts do still create new braves.		** Note that empty huts do still create new braves.
			**''Hut Multiplier'': from the constant.dat file it is stated that: "# X 0 - 0.5, 1 - 1.0, 2 - 1.5, 3 - 2.0...". Meaning one brave has a multiplier of 1, two braves have a multiplier of 1.5, and so on.
	* The size of hut.		* The size of hut.
	** Larger huts create new braves faster than smaller ones. (Even in respect to 'per occupant,' i.e. if two huts have the same number of occupants, the larger one creates new braves faster.)		** Larger huts create new braves faster than smaller ones. (Even in respect to 'per occupant,' i.e. if two huts have the same number of occupants, the larger one creates new braves faster.)
			**''Base Sprog Time'': From the constant.dat file we have the following values connected to breeding time:
			***level 1: 4000
			***level 2: 3000
			***level 3: 2000
			**Meaning a level 3 hut produces braves twice as fast as a level 1 hut.
	* The total number of followers you have, (but not population limit).		* The total number of followers you have, (but not population limit).
	** The larger your following, the slower all your huts create followers.		** The larger your following, the slower all your huts create followers.
	** This aspect is rather odd, though. The number of occupants dynamically affects the rate at which the green (breeding) bar fills (removing and adding occupants alters the rate,) as if each is contributing a supply of breeding units. However, the population seems to change how many breeding units are required to spawn a new follower and scales the bar accordingly, meaning you can sometimes observe the green bar taking a jump down when other huts create more followers or jumping up when a follower dies. (Unknown whether, when a jump up is enough to fill past the end of the bar, the extra is wrapped around to contribute to the next brave spawn or if it is lost.)		** This aspect is rather odd, though. The number of occupants dynamically affects the rate at which the green (breeding) bar fills (removing and adding occupants alters the rate,) as if each is contributing a supply of breeding units. However, the population seems to change how many breeding units are required to spawn a new follower and scales the bar accordingly, meaning you can sometimes observe the green bar taking a jump down when other huts create more followers or jumping up when a follower dies. (Unknown whether, when a jump up is enough to fill past the end of the bar, the extra is wrapped around to contribute to the next brave spawn or if it is lost.)
	** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)		** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)
	*~~Breeding Rate Formula - Works well for lower population levels. Further testing required.~~		**''Population Band'': From constant.dat file we have the following values which represents the breeding rate affected by the current population size:
	*Breeding rate = base_sprog_time / 12 / ((1 + hut_multiplier x (braves_in_hut - 1)) ~~(1 + population_band / 100))~~		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30
	***Base_sprog_time: ~~the base time for a new Brave to be born in a hut, depending on hut level(info from~~ constant.dat).		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35
	****level 1: 4000		***P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40
	****level 2: 3000		***etc...
	****level 3: 2000
	***The hut_multiplier maps the ~~number of Braves to a multiplier value. For example, 1 brave has a multiplier of 1, 2 braves have a multiplier of 1.5, and so on.~~		*Breeding Duration Formula - Works well for lower population levels. Further testing required.
	****from constant.dat file: "# X 0 - 0.5, 1 - 1.0, 2 - 1.5, 3 - 2.0..."		'''''*Breeding Duration = Base_Sprog_Time / 12 / ((1 + Hut_Multiplier x (Braves_in_Hut- 1)) (1 + Population_Band / 100))'''''
	***population_band: A factor influenced by the ~~total~~ population ~~of Braves.~~
	****From constant.dat file:
	*****P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_00_04% = 30
	*****P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_05_09% = 35
	*****P3CONST_SPROG%_POP_BAND_10_14% = 40
	*****etc...
	****~~This factor represents how the breeding rate is affected by the overall population growth~~

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

Enkai: /* Breeding */

2023-04-04T12:43:48Z

Breeding

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 ** This aspect is rather odd, though. The number of occupants dynamically affects the rate at which the green (breeding) bar fills (removing and adding occupants alters the rate,) as if each is contributing a supply of breeding units. However, the population seems to change how many breeding units are required to spawn a new follower and scales the bar accordingly, meaning you can sometimes observe the green bar taking a jump down when other huts create more followers or jumping up when a follower dies. (Unknown whether, when a jump up is enough to fill past the end of the bar, the extra is wrapped around to contribute to the next brave spawn or if it is lost.)
 ** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)
+*Breeding Rate Formula - Works well for lower population levels. Further testing required.
 ==Tactics==

Divinity at 20:41, 15 June 2019

2019-06-15T20:41:46Z

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	Huts are very useful for [[follower]]s. The breeding and upgrade rate is dependent on the number of followers you have in it, the more followers you have the faster it gets, all in all a hut may upgrade twice and hold up to five [[follower]]s. [[Firewarrior]]s placed in huts may fire out of it when enemies approach and your [[shaman]] may cast spells while in the hut too.		Huts are very useful for [[follower]]s. The breeding and upgrade rate is dependent on the number of followers you have in it, the more followers you have the faster it gets, all in all a hut may upgrade twice and hold up to five [[follower]]s. [[Firewarrior]]s placed in huts may fire out of it when enemies approach and your [[shaman]] may cast spells while in the hut too.

	When hovering over huts to see how many [[follower]]s are in it, there's two bars on the left ('''green''' and '''red'''). The '''green''' bar indicates how much progress there is for creating another [[brave]]. The '''red''' bar indicates the progress on upgrading the hut to the next stage.		When hovering over huts to see how many [[follower]]s are in it, there's two bars on the left ('''green''' and '''red'''). The '''green''' bar indicates how much progress there is for creating another [[brave]]. The '''red''' bar indicates the progress on [[Upgrading\|upgrading]] the hut to the next stage.

	==Tutorial Speeches==		==Tutorial Speeches==
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	==Manual Upgrade==		==Manual Upgrade==

	Manually upgrading is a fast way to upgrade your '''''small huts''''' to the next stage. You can manually upgrade a hut by commanding a [[brave]] to pick up [[wood]] and place it on the hut entrance. The red bar should increase a notch.		Manually [[Upgrading\|upgrading]] is a fast way to upgrade your '''''small huts''''' to the next stage. You can manually [[Upgrading\|upgrade]] a hut by commanding a [[brave]] to pick up [[wood]] and place it on the hut entrance. The red bar should increase a notch.
	Note that a hut will never upgrade if there is a tree right next to the door.		Note that a hut will never upgrade if there is a tree right next to the door.

	{{Nav_Huts}}		{{Nav_Huts}}

Taity mini: Added Robert Ashby Tutorial Speech

2018-11-02T01:37:30Z

Added Robert Ashby Tutorial Speech

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	When hovering over huts to see how many [[follower]]s are in it, there's two bars on the left ('''green''' and '''red'''). The '''green''' bar indicates how much progress there is for creating another [[brave]]. The '''red''' bar indicates the progress on upgrading the hut to the next stage.		When hovering over huts to see how many [[follower]]s are in it, there's two bars on the left ('''green''' and '''red'''). The '''green''' bar indicates how much progress there is for creating another [[brave]]. The '''red''' bar indicates the progress on upgrading the hut to the next stage.

			==Tutorial Speeches==
			<html5media height="720" width="1280">https://ts.popre.net/files/mp3s/Tutorial%20-%20Huts%20are%20for%20breeding%20followers.mp3</html5media>

			<html5media height="720" width="1280">https://ts.popre.net/files/mp3s/Tutorial%20-%20When%20placed%20in%20huts%20braves%20generate%20more%20mana.mp3</html5media>

	==Breeding==		==Breeding==

Divinity at 16:28, 18 May 2018

2018-05-18T16:28:21Z

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	The breeding rate of a hut is dependent on:		The breeding rate of a hut is dependent on:
	* The number of followers in the hut.		* The number of followers in the hut.
	** It ~~seems (still to confirm) that it~~ doesn't matter whether they are braves, ~~some~~ trained follower, or even your shaman; ~~that~~ each ~~count~~ the same.		**It doesn't matter whether they are braves, a trained follower, or even your shaman; each counts the same.
	** It seems (still to confirm) the rate is proportional to the number plus one, e.g. a hut with 3 occupants creates new braves twice as fast as a hut with 1 occupant and four times as fast as a hut with no occupants.		** It seems (still to confirm) the rate is proportional to the number plus one, e.g. a hut with 3 occupants creates new braves twice as fast as a hut with 1 occupant and four times as fast as a hut with no occupants.
	** Note that empty huts do still create new braves.		** Note that empty huts do still create new braves.

Divinity at 22:52, 27 November 2017

2017-11-27T22:52:12Z

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	[[category:~~Buildings~~]]		[[category:Huts]]
	{{Infobox ~~Buildings~~		{{Infobox Huts
	\|Hut = Hut		\|Hut = Hut
	\|Image = Huts.jpg		\|Image = Huts.jpg

Divinity at 22:51, 27 November 2017

2017-11-27T22:51:50Z

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	[[category:~~Huts~~]]		[[category:Buildings]]
	{{Infobox ~~Huts~~		{{Infobox Buildings
	\|Hut = Hut		\|Hut = Hut
	\|Image = Huts.jpg		\|Image = Huts.jpg

J N Cressey: Fixed a typo 'if' -> 'is'

2016-06-08T14:33:16Z

Fixed a typo 'if' -> 'is'

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	* The total number of followers you have, (but not population limit).		* The total number of followers you have, (but not population limit).
	** The larger your following, the slower all your huts create followers.		** The larger your following, the slower all your huts create followers.
	** This aspect is rather odd, though. The number of occupants dynamically affects the rate at which the green (breeding) bar fills (removing and adding occupants alters the rate,) as if each is contributing a supply of breeding units. However, the population seems to change how many breeding units are required to spawn a new follower and scales the bar accordingly, meaning you can sometimes observe the green bar taking a jump down when other huts create more followers or jumping up when a follower dies. (Unknown whether, when a jump up if enough to fill past the end of the bar, the extra is wrapped around to contribute to the next brave spawn or if it is lost.)		** This aspect is rather odd, though. The number of occupants dynamically affects the rate at which the green (breeding) bar fills (removing and adding occupants alters the rate,) as if each is contributing a supply of breeding units. However, the population seems to change how many breeding units are required to spawn a new follower and scales the bar accordingly, meaning you can sometimes observe the green bar taking a jump down when other huts create more followers or jumping up when a follower dies. (Unknown whether, when a jump up is enough to fill past the end of the bar, the extra is wrapped around to contribute to the next brave spawn or if it is lost.)
	** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)		** It doesn't change at every single different population, but rather at discrete thresholds where the rate suddenly drops. (I'll be doing more tests to find all the thresholds and if there's a pattern, but, at the moment, I know that given a hut with 5 occupants, there is one rate for when the population is 5, then a different rate for when the population is 6-8, and another for when it's 9-19. And the thresholds may be different for different hut sizes and different numbers of occupants.)